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    From: dashxdr at gmail.com<dashxdr@g...>
    Date: Sun Jul 6 21:05:15 CEST 2008
    Subject: [oc] Open Source creation of FPGA data files?
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    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4969729965240981475

    It's a google talks video given by Bob Brodersen.

    In general it's a call for a new paradigm, where you do general
    purpose computation on reconfigurable hardware (as in FPGA's).

    But he points out one major problem -- the creation of the data file
    for the FPGA's themselves is a computationally intensive process, and
    we're using the old von-neuman limited general purpose cpu's for this.
    Very wasteful + slow.

    So just as software development got a big boost when compilers existed
    that were written in their own language, we need a similiar shift. We
    want to have the FPGA itself assist in the creation of its own
    configuration file. That means you need to define a language that is
    expressive enough to implement the place & route, logic synthesis
    task, yet itself can be compiled into the FPGA fabric.

    Towards that end, tools produced by Xilinx + Altera -- they're dead
    ends. The open source community needs to attack the problem of the
    place & route software. It's a lot more realistic to transition from
    an open source tool to one utilizing an FPGA itself, than the current
    closed source model.

    So here's my question: What existing open source projects are there
    for creating the data files for FPGA's without using the vendor's
    software?

    I've got a spartan-3e starter board. Suppose I wanted to program the
    3e without using Xilinx's software, is it even possible?

    Thanks!
    David Ashley
    dashxdr@g...
    http://www.xdr.com/dash

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