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From: Richard Herveille<richard@h...>
Date: Thu Apr 12 08:28:44 CEST 2007
Subject: [oc] Wishbone spec clarification
===================================== The wishbone spec, Rule 3.30, on page 41 states:
SLAVE interfaces MAY NOT respond to any SLAVE signals when [CYC_I] is negated.
However, in figure A-11 on page 110, it is clear that the CYC_I signal is completely ignored by the simple register. It also similarly violates Rule 3.35 on page 41,
The cycle termination signals [ACK_O], [ERR_O], and [RTY_O] must be generated in response to the logical AND of [CYC_I] and [STB_I].
I'm new to wishbone, so I'm not sure if this is a big deal or not, but I could imagine problems if the INTERCON assumes the slaves follow these 2 rules and they don't.
[rih] It does not violate the specs. CYC can be considered a bus-request signal STB can be considered a transfer-valid signal Most (all??) cores simply output CYC and STB at the same time; basically making them the same signal. However the spec allows CYC to be asserted without asserting STB.
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What is the purpose of the LOCK_O signal? From the description it says that it indicates that the bus cycle is uninterruptible. However, the statement:
Once the transfer has started, the INTERCON does not grant the bus to any other MASTER, until the current MASTER negates [LOCK_O] or [CYC_O].
If deasserting CYC_O causes the lock to end, then this signal doesn't really do anything more than asserting CYC_O by itself, does it?
[rih] Not really CYC is a bus-request signal. If it's asserted it validates all other signals. So if CYC is negated, LOCK is invalid.
If a higher priority bus master asserts CYC then the bus arbiter might grant that master the bus. Asserting LOCK prevents this.
So far nobody uses LOCK.
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What is the cab_i signal on slaves and cab_o on masters which the wb_conbus uses? I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the specs, and the conbus just seems to pass it on without acting on it.
[rih] CAB is obsolete and has been superseded by CTI and CTE
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Thanks, Matt _______________________________________________ http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores
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