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    From: khantauheed at gmail.com<khantauheed@g...>
    Date: Thu Dec 14 17:50:05 CET 2006
    Subject: [oc] Quick Start on Opensource FPGA design VLSI Tools
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    hi

    how we split a clock in to subclock (i.e.divided by 2,3, 4) using VHDL.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Shehryar Shaheen<shehryar.shaheen@u...>
    To:
    Date: Sat May 15 17:10:09 CEST 2004
    Subject: [oc] Quick Start on Opensource ASIC design VLSI Tools

    > Ofcourse the Alliance tools cannot be compared with Synopsys DC
    > or Cadence Buildgates etc but theses tools have big price tags
    > which
    > the Allaince tools don't. Its common knowledge that free tools may
    > not be wholly at par with the ones that are not free but then this
    > doesn't mean that nomenclature has to be different
    > Icarus Verilog is grouped under 'Verilog Simulator' but because
    > it doesn't have all the features that NC-Verilog or Verilog-XL have
    > it doesn't need to called say 'half-verilog simulator' or something
    > , now
    > does it :)
    > Alliance tools are free and are opensourse and yes they place
    > some amount of restrictions as to the way RTL is written but
    > then RTL is always written with strict rules keeping mind what
    > the synthesis tools will infer from the RTL.
    > Even Design Compiler or some other high end (and not free) tools
    > will not allow for absolute freedom to write what ever construct
    > one
    > feels like that is part of VHDL or Verilog language and the
    > synthesis
    > tools doesn't complain about it and one still might have to do
    > changes in the code to get it synthsized.
    > While they do support a larger synthesizable subset they are
    > neither free nor opensource.
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Guy Hutchison" <ghutchis@g...>
    > To: "Discussion list about free open source IP cores"
    > <cores@o...>
    > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:17 AM
    > Subject: Re: [oc] Quick Start on Opensource ASIC design VLSI Tools
    > > > That essentially IS logic sysnthesis of standard VHDL RTL
    > > > aftet this you get a VHDL gatelevel netlist made up with
    > > > standrad cells from the library sxlib ( sxlib is
    > distributed with
    > Allance)
    > >
    > > Unforunately, neither Verilog nor VHDL has ever defined what
    > portion
    > > of the language constitutes the synthesizable subset, and so
    > we are
    > > left with de facto standards. The bar for this is whatever
    > VHDL code
    > > can be accepted by common synthesis tools as Design Compiler
    > and
    > > Get2Chip. While VASY does support more constructs than I
    > thought it
    > > did, it was unable to translate several VHDL files (from
    > > opencores.org) which I have previously compiled with DC.
    > >
    > > This means that, in practice, unless you are coding
    > specifically for
    > > the Alliance tool set, compiling your code with VASY will
    > require
    > > rewriting substantial portions of it.
    > >
    > > My comment about being misleading was that if you make a
    > statement
    > > like "tool XXX supports logic synthesis" with no
    > conditions or
    > > caveats, anyone looking at the tool will expect it to have
    > roughly the
    > > same capabilities and limitations of other tools that support
    > logic
    > > synthesis; VASY/BOOM does not meet these criteria.
    > > _______________________________________________
    > > http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores
    >
    >

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