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    From: littff at 1`26.com
    Date: Wed Nov 8 08:58:52 CET 2006
    Subject: [oc] Humiliating and Offensive Attack Is Rendered on M-DVEcore designer
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: wdwd2008@y...
    To: rudi@a..., cores@o...
    Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:04:38 +0200
    Subject: Re: [oc] Humiliating and Offensive Attack Is Rendered on
    M-DVEcore designer

    >
    >
    >
    > Maxim Y. Vlasov is welcome!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Rudolf Usselmann <rudi@a... >
    > To: cores@o...
    > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:18:38 +0700
    > Subject: Re: [oc] Humiliating and Offensive Attack Is Rendered on
    > M-DVEcore designer
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 08:23, Maxim Y. Vlasov wrote:
    > > > My friends,
    > > >
    > > > I am very surprised, that OPENCORES management does not
    > > protect the
    > > > OPENCORES members from fraud, offensive and other
    > damaging
    > > actions
    > > > from anonymous outsiders. Theoretically, anything can be
    > > published on
    > > > the front page of the OPENCORES WEB site, since none of
    > the
    > > cases like
    > > > with M-DVE message was studied by the administrator
    > before
    > > posting it
    > > > on the message board.
    > >
    > > "Fraud by anonymous outsiders" ???? So far the only
    > > *potential* fraud has been committed is by you ! You
    > > are being *accused* of fraud. You are also the only one
    > > using a public email address (e.g. hiding your true
    > > identity and location). Who else is "anonymous" ?
    > >
    > > "Offensive and other damaging actions" ??? So far there
    > > have been no offensive actions at all. And all damages
    > > have been done by you.
    > >
    > > You are the only one who is bringing damaging actions
    > > up on OpenCores and all it's contributors by deceiving
    > > potential users of your cores. You are a liar.
    > >
    > > > Despite all the free effort, free time spent by me, the
    > > message from 9
    > > > Oct 2003 sent by Hill, Shannon discourages me to continue
    > my
    > > > contributions and dedication to OPENCORES. I don't want
    > to
    > > start a
    > > > "flame war" here, but such an offensive actions, misuse
    > of my
    > > private
    > > > e-mails, disclosing proprietary information to the
    > public,
    > > violation
    > > > of the private policy and professional ethics, distortion
    > of
    > > an actual
    > > > meaning of the message do upset me beyond all the
    > tolerable
    > > limits.
    > >
    > > Did you actually tell Shannon that the information was
    > > proprietary and confidential ? Did Shannon leave out part
    > > of you email that states that it is "Proprietary and
    > > confidential information of Maxim Vlasov" ?.
    > >
    > > Can you post the privacy policy you and Shannon had agree
    > > up on, or any reference to the "privacy policy" you are
    > > referring to from your personal communication with Shannon ?
    > >
    > > How did Shannon "distorted the actual meaning of your
    > > message" ? She even included your message with her email,
    > > to make sure not to distorted and mislead the OpenCores
    > > community. It is your message we are judging you buy, not
    > > by what Shannon said.
    > >
    > > I'm so sorry you are "upset beyond all tolerable limits".
    > > Did you consider how much time and effort somebody might
    > > be putting in to use your cores before they discover the
    > > "deliberately made bugs" ? Who knows how many "non deliberate
    > > bugs" there are.
    > >
    > > > Now, let me explain the real meaning of my private
    > > confidential reply
    > > > to Hill Shannon, which he disclosed to public by > violating > > elementary > > > rules of professional ethics and fairness, without even > > informing me > > > beforehand. > > > > Professional ethics ? Fairness ? - Look who is talking ! > > You are so full of it ... You know how to spell the words > > but you obviously have absolutely no clue what they mean. > > I have never met an individual who is that far detached > > from reality ... > > > > > The message which I sent was saying, that the design on > the > > OPENCORES > > > has some limitations in functionality, since the jitter > level > > and data > > > processing is such, that the core would not deliver SDTV > > quality. > > > Please, note, that it does not mean, that the core does > not > > function > > > properly. This core does function and it was proven on > the > > FPGA > > > prototype. In the discussion I had to explain, that there > are > > 5 > > > builtin limitations comparing the commercially available > > version, > > > which I called "functional bugs" or limitations. For > instance, > > if you > > > check the core output quality on the vectorscope, you > would > > find out, > > > that the subcarrier jitter is slightly above the limit, > which > > is not > > > the case with the commercial core. The datapath with in > NCO is > > 32 bits > > > wide inside M-DVE and 48 bits wide in the case of > DENC-II. Is > > it a > > > bug? Not, since this is the design limitation. More over, > all > > the > > > claimed functionality and features in the integration > manual > > are met. > > > In my message I called it a "bug" to be more explicit, > since > > the chain > > > of previous e-mails did address the use of M-DVE in > > SDTV/broadcast > > > applications. That is why I have to state, that the > message > > was taken > > > out of it's context and completely distorted the truth. > > > > So now they are "function limitations" ? I think your > > ethics got lost somewhere here. From what I can see your > > English is very good, and you should clearly understand > > the difference of "deliberately made bugs" and "functional > > limitations". > > > > You say in your email to Shannon "the code is not fully > > functional" but on the Project page you classify the code > > to be "Production/Stable" that is unethical, that is > > deception, that is fraud ! > > > > > Dear M-DVE users. Please, fill free to express your > personal > > opinion > > > on the case listed above. > > > I do count on your support. > > > > Yes indeed I would be very interested to hear unbiased > > technical feedback from any user of Maxim's cores. > > > > > Sincerely yours, > > > Maxim Vlasov. October 10-th 2003. > > > > Because of you, a single case of deception and unethical > > behavior, OpenCores and all it's contributors will be > > judged to be the same. It takes one "bad person" to bring > > a bad reputation upon a whole community of a thousand. > > > > Regards, > > rudi > > > ====================================================== > == > > ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: > > ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: > > FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools > > >

     
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