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    From: "John Paul Aguiling" <johnpaolo_a@e...>
    Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:43:29 -0800
    Subject: [usb] Re: usb-digest V1 #94
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    Hi to all of you out there. I am very interested with your discussion regarding USB issue. Are there  any organizations that contribute to give free seminars and lectures here in the Philippines? I love to attend to this kind of events specially if it benefits a lot. I know reading is one but isn't it fun and adventurous if you are with the people of who are of the same interest? Well I will be waiting for the reply of members subscribe to the USB digest here in the Philippines. Thank You!
    
    usb@o... wrote:
    
    >
    > usb@o...	 usb-digest V1 #94
    >
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >From: pueet@h...
    >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:08:18 +0100
    >Subject: [usb] CYPRESS EZ-USB, not so EZ just confusing
    >
    >2.si  Wed Jan  2 17:08:34 2002
    >Received: (from majordom@localhost)
    >	by iza.mr2.si (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA05116
    >	for usb-list; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:08:34 +0100
    >X-Authentication-Warning: iza.mr2.si: majordom set sender to owner-usb@o... using -f
    >Received: (from oc@localhost)
    >	by iza.mr2.si (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA03831
    >	for usb@o...; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:08:18 +0100
    >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:08:18 +0100
    >Message-Id: <200201021608.RAA03831@i...>
    >Subject: [usb] CYPRESS EZ-USB, not so EZ just confusing
    >To: usb@o...
    >From: pueet@h...
    >Sender: owner-usb@o...
    >Precedence: bulk
    >Reply-To: usb@o...
    >
    >Hello Everyone, thank you so much for taking a look at this. i just had 
    >this project dumped on me and now I'm totally confused. we purshased 
    >some Cypress EZ-USB chips and I'm very new at this stuff. what I need 
    >to acomplish is to be able to plug in this chip into any USB on any 
    >computer that has the proper program on it, that we have to write, and 
    >it will recginize the chip and be ready to run the software. so where I'm 
    >stumped is the very begining how does the PC know when it is pluged in 
    >and how does the driver get installed. we also got a Development board 
    >with the chip on it already and when i first pluged it in with out me doing 
    >a thing it was installed. how do i get ours that stands alone to do that. 
    >I guess MY BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW is how do i communicate with 
    >it? how do i wirte a basic program to tell it to read a port or something 
    >simple like that? IF there is anyone out there that can help me out i 
    >would greatly aperciate it. Thank you so much for listening to me 
    >ramble. Have a great New Year!
    >Thanks again,
    >Justin  
    >
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >From: Bob.Whelan@h...
    >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:55:11 +0000
    >Subject: Re: [usb] CYPRESS EZ-USB, not so EZ just confusing
    >
    >I think you have a lot of reading to do.
    >The usb chip has a 1K5 pull up on one of the D lines, D+ for full speed, D-
    >for low speed, the pc detects this when you plug in your usb gizmo. Then
    >the process of enumeration takes place, whereby your device describes to
    >the host, using report descriptors, what interface it supports and how it
    >will communicate.
    >If the os has a driver that supports your device, it loads this driver.
    >Most chip venders supply application software to do basic enumeration. Have
    >a look at  http://www.usb.org/, Site has a few examples of HID interface.
    >Good luck,
    >Bob.
    >
    >
    >                                                                                   
    >                    pueet@hotmail.                                                 
    >                    com                  To:     usb@o...                 
    >                    Sent by:             cc:                                       
    >                    owner-usb@open       Subject:     [usb] CYPRESS EZ-USB, not so 
    >                    cores.org             EZ just confusing                        
    >                                                                                   
    >                                                                                   
    >                    01/02/2002                                                     
    >                    04:08 PM                                                       
    >                    Please respond                                                 
    >                    to usb                                                         
    >                                                                                   
    >                                                                                   
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >Hello Everyone, thank you so much for taking a look at this. i just had
    >this project dumped on me and now I'm totally confused. we purshased
    >some Cypress EZ-USB chips and I'm very new at this stuff. what I need
    >to acomplish is to be able to plug in this chip into any USB on any
    >computer that has the proper program on it, that we have to write, and
    >it will recginize the chip and be ready to run the software. so where I'm
    >stumped is the very begining how does the PC know when it is pluged in
    >and how does the driver get installed. we also got a Development board
    >with the chip on it already and when i first pluged it in with out me doing
    >
    >a thing it was installed. how do i get ours that stands alone to do that.
    >I guess MY BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW is how do i communicate with
    >it? how do i wirte a basic program to tell it to read a port or something
    >simple like that? IF there is anyone out there that can help me out i
    >would greatly aperciate it. Thank you so much for listening to me
    >ramble. Have a great New Year!
    >Thanks again,
    >Justin
    >
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    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >From: "kw@nie" <kwanie@p...>
    >Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:43:11 +0800
    >Subject: Re: [usb] CYPRESS EZ-USB, not so EZ just confusing
    >
    >Hi Justin,
    >
    >When a USB device is plug in, either D- (low speed), D+ (full speed) or both
    >(high speed) will be pulled high. This lets the host PC knows that a device
    >has been attached and what speed to communicate with it. During enumeration
    >the host will collect the device's information and check if the appropriate
    >driver has already been installed, otherwise host will search for the driver
    >and install it (e.g. Windows will look inside C:\WINDOWS\INF for an .inf
    >that matches). In the event that a suitable driver cannot be found then the
    >host will require the user to provide the driver.
    >
    >I haven't personally used the EZ-USB, but I was looking at it for a project
    >previously. If I recall correctly, EZ-USB is defaulted as 'Firmware Update
    >Sub-Class' device. When you first plug in the EZ-USB it will report itself
    >as a 'Firmware Update Sub-Class' device, this should load the class driver
    >for the 'Firmware Update Sub-Class' and your firmware is downloaded to the
    >EZ-USB. After downloading it will re-enumaerate and this time round your
    >firmware is to report the device infomation of your own so that your own
    >driver can be loaded.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >kwanie
    >
    >
    >
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: <pueet@h...>
    >To: <usb@o...>
    >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:08 AM
    >Subject: [usb] CYPRESS EZ-USB, not so EZ just confusing
    >
    >
    >> Hello Everyone, thank you so much for taking a look at this. i just had
    >> this project dumped on me and now I'm totally confused. we purshased
    >> some Cypress EZ-USB chips and I'm very new at this stuff. what I need
    >> to acomplish is to be able to plug in this chip into any USB on any
    >> computer that has the proper program on it, that we have to write, and
    >> it will recginize the chip and be ready to run the software. so where I'm
    >> stumped is the very begining how does the PC know when it is pluged in
    >> and how does the driver get installed. we also got a Development board
    >> with the chip on it already and when i first pluged it in with out me
    >doing
    >> a thing it was installed. how do i get ours that stands alone to do that.
    >> I guess MY BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW is how do i communicate with
    >> it? how do i wirte a basic program to tell it to read a port or something
    >> simple like that? IF there is anyone out there that can help me out i
    >> would greatly aperciate it. Thank you so much for listening to me
    >> ramble. Have a great New Year!
    >> Thanks again,
    >> Justin
    >> 
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >From: Jecel Assumpcao Jr <jecel@m...>
    >Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:42:46 -0500
    >Subject: Re: [usb] host controller transceiver?
    >
    >On Sunday 30 December 2001 04:28, Amey Hegde wrote:
    >> There is no problem in implementing it on FPGA.
    >
    >Ok.
    >
    >> Are u going in for a 8bit(60MHz) or a 16 bit (30MHz) interface for
    >> the EHCI ? If u r planning a 8 bit interface then please check if the
    >> timings are meeting early in the development phase..
    >
    >Since I will use a Virtex II, I don't think a 60 MHz interface will be 
    >much of a problem. But saving a few pins could be important.
    >
    >Steven Grunza had a very interesting idea - if you add a USB 2.0 hub 
    >chip to the motherboard then the FPGA would only need a high speed 
    >interface to talk to its upstream port and any of the transceivers I 
    >looked at would do just fine.
    >
    >But in that case it might be more cost effective for me to use 
    >something like the Philips ISP1561 PCI Host Controller+Hub and replace 
    >the USB 2.0 core in the FPGA with a PCI one. Not as much fun, but if I 
    >replace two other i/o chips with PCI versions I might end up saving 
    >pins (and CLBs in the FPGA).
    >
    >-- Jecel
    >
    >
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