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From: "Mike Phan" <mphan01@e...>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:36:07 -0700
Subject: RE: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
Damjan,
It is good to know it went that far.
Congratulations
Michael Phan
-----Original Message-----
From: Damjan Lampret [mailto:lampret@o...]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:58 PM
To: mphan01@e...
Cc: openrisc@o...
Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
Michael,
what I tried so far it worked. The qmem will be used in an ASIC, so I'm
going to run some additional tests.
regards,
Damjan
----- Original Message -----
From: <mphan01@e...>
To: <lampret@o...>; <openrisc@o...>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
>
> Damjan,
>
> I am sorry that I could not follow up on this qmem project for the time
> being. I will continue verifying it in the future and keeping you informed
> when time allows.
> Anyway how is this qmem implementation working for you? Any show
> stopper?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael Phan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damjan Lampret" <lampret@o... >
> To: <openrisc@o... >,
> <mphan@n... >
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:37:40 -0700
> Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
>
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > for some reason it ended up in the Attic, I have moved it back from
> > the
> > Attic. Give it a try.
> >
> > regards,
> > Damjan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Phan" <mphan01@e... >
> > To: <openrisc@o... >;
> > <mphan@n... >
> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> >
> >
> > > Damjan,
> > >
> > > I tried to download the new branch tag branch_qmem like you
> > said, but I
> > did
> > > not get the or1200_qmem_top.v file.
> > > Would you please double check the CVS data base?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Michael Phan
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-openrisc@o...
> > > [mailto:owner-openrisc@o... ]On Behalf Of Damjan
> > Lampret
> > > Sent: 08 July 2003 17:18
> > > To: openrisc@o... ; mphan@n...
> > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > you can check out or1k/or1200 (or or1k/orp/ ...) with the
> > following branch
> > > tag: branch_qmem
> > >
> > > Make sure you have among other or1200 rtl files also file
> > or1200_qmem_top.v,
> > > this is where the embedded memory sits. (I had some problems
> > creating
> > branch
> > > so please check that you have this file)
> > >
> > > Then go to or1200_defines.v and enable
> > OR1200_QMEM_IMPLEMENTED.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Damjan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <mphan01@e... >
> > > To: <mphan@n... >;
> > <openrisc@o... >
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:17 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Damjan,
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know if you already checked in the new data
> > base for "I
> > > > RAM replacement for I cache".
> > > > I hope you did have a chance to do the final testing.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Michael Phan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Phan" <mphan@n... >
> > > > To: <openrisc@o... >
> > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:41:17 -0700
> > > > Subject: RE: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sound good to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Phan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-openrisc@o...
> > > > > [mailto:owner-openrisc@o... ]On Behalf Of Damjan
> > Lampret
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:37 PM
> > > > > To: Openrisc@O...
> > > > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > yes I'm back. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm doing some final testing so I'm sure I don't
> > check-in some
> > > > > garbage. I'll
> > > > > check-in tomorrow evening or saturday (depending
> > when I'm done
> > > > with
> > > > > testing).
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Damjan
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <mphan@n... >
> > > > > To: <lampret@o... >; <openrisc@o... >
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:51 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Damjan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope you are back from travelling and had a
> > nice one.
> > > > > > Did you check in the changes for "I RAM
> > replacement for I
> > > > > cache" yet?
> > > > > > I am waiting to test it out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Michael Phan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Damjan Lampret" <lampret@o... >
> > > > > > To: <mphan@n... >,
> > > > > > <openrisc@o... >
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:47:12 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I assume you mean the I RAM replacement
> > for I cache? Not
> > > > > yet, for
> > > > > > > the moment
> > > > > > > you can use RAM connected to iwb and I'll
> > commit the
> > > > > changes to the
> > > > > > > cvs next
> > > > > > > weekend (I'm travelling this weekend until
> > next weekend).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > Damjan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <mphan@n... >
> > > > > > > To: <mphan@n... >;
> > > > > > > <openrisc@o... >
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:11 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line Fill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HI Damjan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just want to touch base with you on
> > this project,
> > > > > "instruction
> > > > > > > execution
> > > > > > > > with 0 wait state", did yo have a
> > chane to put the
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > > into the
> > > > > > > > CVS so we can download and try them
> > out.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > Michael Phan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: mphan@n...
> > > > > > > > To: lampret@o... , openrisc@o...
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 17:57:54 -0100
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache Line
> > Fill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Damjan,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your feedbacks are so precious
> > and helpful to
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > project. Exactly,
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > don't need to use MMU and want
> > to replace the
> > > > > cache with
> > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > memory for instruction execution
> > with 0 wait
> > > > > state. So
> > > > > > > please put
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > changes in the CVS at your
> > convenience so we
> > > > > can try it
> > > > > > > out and
> > > > > > > > > measure the performance
> > improvement. Our
> > > > > project needs
> > > > > > > about 512
> > > > > > > > KB
> > > > > > > > > for the cache.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thousand thanks
> > > > > > > > > Michael Phan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Damjan Lampret"
> > <lampret@o... >
> > > > > > > > > To: <openrisc@o... >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 21:21:38
> > -0700
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [openrisc] Cache
> > Line Fill
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message
> > -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: <mphan@n... >
> > > > > > > > > > To: <openrisc@o... >
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01,
> > 2003 3:36 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [openrisc] Cache
> > Line Fill
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Damjan.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In the current design
> > of orp_soc,
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > or1200_registered_ouput
> > > > > > > > > > > supported, a cache
> > line fill takes 8
> > > > > clocks
> > > > > > > (2-2-2-2) to
> > > > > > > > > fetch
> > > > > > > > > > 4 DWORDs
> > > > > > > > > > > from the SRAM/FLASH.
> > And a single
> > > > > DWORD fetch
> > > > > > > takes 3
> > > > > > > > > clocks
> > > > > > > > > > > (including one idle
> > cycle of wb_cyc_o
> > > > > > > deasserted).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If we have a very fast
> > internal SRAM,
> > > > > is it
> > > > > > > possible to
> > > > > > > > > do a
> > > > > > > > > > cache line
> > > > > > > > > > fill
> > > > > > > > > > > with 4/5 clocks
> > (1/2-1-1-1) by
> > > > > changing the
> > > > > > > wb_stb logic
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > or1200_wb_biu.v and do
> > a single DWORD
> > > > > fetch
> > > > > > > with 2
> > > > > > > > > clocks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OR1200 is it is has been
> > used in SoC
> > > > > projects much
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > complxed
> > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > orp_soc. In all these
> > projects the memory
> > > > > subsystem
> > > > > > > takes more
> > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > 1/2-1-1-1. So the current
> > 2-2-2-2 was fast
> > > > > enough
> > > > > > > for all
> > > > > > > > > SoCs. If
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > however have faster memory
> > subsystem than
> > > > > > > modification of
> > > > > > > > > > or1200_wb_biu and
> > > > > > > > > > possibly IC/DC state
> > machines will be
> > > > > needed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My next question is
> > can we increase
> > > > > to cache
> > > > > > > size to 512
> > > > > > > > > kB to
> > > > > > > > > > reside
> > > > > > > > > > > the whole firmware and
> > execute
> > > > > instructions
> > > > > > > from it with
> > > > > > > > > 0
> > > > > > > > > > wait state.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you want to use MMUs,
> > then no. This is
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > MMU's page
> > > > > > > > > > translation is
> > > > > > > > > > done at the same time as
> > cache access -
> > > > > virtual page
> > > > > > > number is
> > > > > > > > > > translated at
> > > > > > > > > > the same time as cache hit
> > is determined.
> > > > > Since page
> > > > > > > size is
> > > > > > > > > 8KB,
> > > > > > > > > > largest
> > > > > > > > > > direct mapped cache can
> > only be 8KB,
> > > > > unless you use
> > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > > ways,
> > > > > > > > > > or unless
> > > > > > > > > > cache access takes an
> > additional clock
> > > > > cycle (maybe
> > > > > > > acceptable
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > data
> > > > > > > > > > accesses ?).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anyway if you don't need
> > MMU, then your
> > > > > caches sizes
> > > > > > > are not
> > > > > > > > > > limited. To
> > > > > > > > > > increase cache size just
> > add new IC/DC
> > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > (search
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > "configuration" in
> > or1200_defines.v and
> > > > > when you
> > > > > > > find IC and
> > > > > > > > > DC
> > > > > > > > > > configurations, just add a
> > new size and
> > > > > then enable
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > configuration).
> > > > > > > > > > Right now there are
> > configurations for 4KB
> > > > > and 8KB
> > > > > > > caches.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm working on one project
> > where similar
> > > > > to your
> > > > > > > case all code
> > > > > > > > > > needs to be
> > > > > > > > > > accessible in 0 wait
> > states. What I plan
> > > > > to do is to
> > > > > > > replaces
> > > > > > > > > > caches with
> > > > > > > > > > fixed memories - basically
> > removing TAG
> > > > > RAMs and
> > > > > > > making sure
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > the "hit"
> > > > > > > > > > always happens when
> > accessing certain
> > > > > address range
> > > > > > > and never
> > > > > > > > > > happens when
> > > > > > > > > > accesssing outside of that
> > range. This
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > effectively
> > > > > > > > > "change
> > > > > > > > > > caches into
> > > > > > > > > > fixed RAMs much like DSP
> > RAMs or similar).
> > > > > > > > > > If you want these changes,
> > I can put them
> > > > > into the
> > > > > > > cvs with
> > > > > > > > > > appropriate
> > > > > > > > > > defines. But it will take a
> > few days.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > Damjan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Michael Phan
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