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From: Damjan Lampret<lampret@o...>
Date: Sat Feb 7 04:45:55 CET 2004
Subject: [oc] SoC Builder
> I certainly want to have this project hosted by OpenCores. I tried to
> register the project on Saturday or Sunday, but haven't gotten any
> response. Should I try again?
Did you managed to have it registered? Did you get a mailing list? Let me
know if you have any problems.
> That would be great. I had a long and not-so-friendly discussion with
> my own boss about this project. It's not easy for upper managagement to
> see why owning a proprietary SoC builder is less helpful than having a
> common community one. For ViASIC, I won the argument on cost. We can't
> afford to go it alone. For Flextronics, I would guess that FPGA
> conversions would be a good argument, since it's easier to convert FPGA
> designs to ASICs if they are built with open cores.
> I get the feeling that there are several large companies out there
> building proprietary SoC builders of their own, thinking that it will
> give them a competitve advantage. If your IBM, it's hard to argue
> against that, but for us smaller guys, we'd get crushed.
>
True. Flextronics is one of the major FPGA to ASIC conversion vendors and
for conversion open source means easy to handle. However Flextronics also
does SOCs (RTL-to-GDS flow). In this case the situation gets a little
different. However Flextronics is very open minded and believes you need to
be on the bleeding edge of changes or you will be run over by competition. I
think open source has an excellent future also in hardware (to be more
specific in cores and SoCs). IBM is now embracing Linux after many decades
of pushing proprietary software. I think IBM in ten years will be doign the
same with hardware intellectual property (cores and SoCs).
> Wow! I noticed that the copyright says the manual is confidential. Is
> this a problem? Is it ok if I read it?
I have attached a more apropriate version. FLINT as a whole is still
proprietary, but copy of the manual you can read it and if majority thinks
this could be good underlaying technology for the SoC Builder, then I will
talk to Flex management.
regards,
Damjan
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