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From: Bill Cox<bill@v...>
Date: Fri Feb 6 12:41:48 CET 2004
Subject: [oc] SoC Builder
Hi, Damjan.Damjan Lampret wrote: >>This will let me take most of the SoC Builder related stuff off this
>>list, which is probably already annoying some people. If SoC Builder is
>>aproved on the OpenCores site, I'll ask to have the discussion list
>>hosted there.
>>
>>Bill
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>Bill it takes about 5 minutes to register a new project and about 24 hrs to
>set up a mailing list. I think SoC Builder would be an excellent way of
>taking OpenCores idea to the next level and OpenCores would be happy to host
>the SoC Builder project. :-)
>
>
I certainly want to have this project hosted by OpenCores. I tried to
register the project on Saturday or Sunday, but haven't gotten any
response. Should I try again?
>In fact in Flextronics Semiconductor we have built a technology that does
>the low level integration of IP Cores. It is similar to the idea of Perlilog
>(which also started within Flextronics Semiconductor) and I'm talking to the
>management to consider opening this technology and offer it as the low level
>of the SoC Builder. This technology has already proved as several ASIC
>projects within Flextronics Semiconductor were done using it. This lower
>layer will integrate the IP cores together, generate a traffic cop (used
>with WISHBONE type of IP Cores) and generate top level. It will instantiate
>pads etc.
>
That would be great. I had a long and not-so-friendly discussion with
my own boss about this project. It's not easy for upper managagement to
see why owning a proprietary SoC builder is less helpful than having a
common community one. For ViASIC, I won the argument on cost. We can't
afford to go it alone. For Flextronics, I would guess that FPGA
conversions would be a good argument, since it's easier to convert FPGA
designs to ASICs if they are built with open cores.
I get the feeling that there are several large companies out there
building proprietary SoC builders of their own, thinking that it will
give them a competitve advantage. If your IBM, it's hard to argue
against that, but for us smaller guys, we'd get crushed.
>There was also a project started to build the GUI in Java (Marko do you have
>a screenshot to publish?). I have attached a manual, a script that creates
>an example SoC (OR1200, Ethernet MAC, PCI, UART, GPIO and Memory Controller)
>and I'd like to hear your comments.
>
>regards,
>Damjan
>
>
Wow! I noticed that the copyright says the manual is confidential. Is
this a problem? Is it ok if I read it?
Bill
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