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    From: Richard Herveille <richard@a...>
    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:22:00 +0100
    Subject: Re: [oc] Beyond Transmeta...
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    >   This is correct while the signal is travelling in a single nerve cell,
    > however the propagation at the interfaces between cell's are limited by
    > ordinary diffusion, which slows it down a bit ( quite a lot ).
    
    Correct the axons in more modern beings are covered by a special coating. This 
    coating decreases the propagation delay from cell to cell considerably. Think 
    about it in ways of a highway; cars can go fast but only straight, they have 
    to wait for the next exit before they can make a turn.
    
    The propagation delay from cell to cell - or better everywhere where there's 
    no special coating - is very slow actually. There's a reason why lower 
    animals react more slowly than higher animals besides being cold blooded vs. 
    warm blooded (which is, among other things, a reaction to higher nerve 
    throughput).
    
    >   I think the batter hit's where he expect's the ball to be, and I am
    > not to sure that not the visual cortext can bypass to ( the little
    > thingi in the back, I don't know its brittish name ) in order to get the
    > batting done. Also I don't think the batter think, I think he is
    > reacting by using a trained curve fitting algorith.
    
    In Europe we would probably talk about a football keeper stopping a penalty 
    kick. Both reactions are reflexes. Trained curves that do not need any 
    response from the brain (!!!), because the brain is way to slow to deal with 
    them. A reflex is the fastest response possible by nerves. The initiator 
    sends a signal the the nearest most primitive motion nerve knot (usually the 
    spinal court), the nerve knot immediately responses.
    
    A good example of this is your hand/arm backing off when you touch something 
    hot. The hand/arm already backed off, before your brain 'knows' the item was 
    hot.
    
    >   Actually the brain doesn't signal process at 20 kHz, the ear does a
    > fft ( by it's construction ), and the brain matches the signal processed
    > data against a template, also no 'thinking' involved.
    
    In brains terms thinking is pattern matching. It's a matter of being aware 
    that it happens (cognitive versus non-cognitive), your hart beats without you 
    having to tell it to beat each time. On the other hand only a few people 
    'know' how to control their hardbeat (some can even stop the hart at will).
    
    
    > >>  however it is good at hiding it's own fallancies.
    > >
    > > At least the brain can imagine that it is hiding it's own fallacies.
    >
    >   Not so, my brain certainly has no such alleged fallancies ! ;-)
    
    A good example of a brain hiding it's fallacies :-))
    
    >   Seriously, it would be interesting to know how much thought that went
    > into different matters, and how much pattern matching and so on the
    > brains does.
    >
    
    Even more interresting is the left/right side story. It appears that one side 
    responses to an event, and the other side tries to explain the reaction.
    Example: split brain persons (persons where the connection between the left 
    and right side of the brain are destroyed) are shown pictures, each eye a 
    different picture. Classic example is where one eye sees a naked women, and 
    the other a car. Common reaction - at least for men - is to giggle. When 
    asked why they giggle they respond that it was a funny car.
    
    Richard
    
    
    
    
    
    

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